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Comment from redbonegal
Time February 28, 2010 at 5:23 am

so I guess we are just supposed to pay premiums for insurance and let them decide who lives and who dies? Acording to the GOP thats what is supposed to happen.

Comment from humanisall
Time February 28, 2010 at 6:18 am

Reality is stronger than conservative fear tactics. most americans do not react to fear as republicans and so they proceed forward for others than themselves

Comment from Johntkr
Time February 28, 2010 at 7:06 am

Healthcare companies take 1 out of every 3 dollars. So the ones that do not come up with new medicine or treat people medically make as much or more money as those who do

Comment from hellotommy
Time February 28, 2010 at 7:39 am

Thomas Jefferson famously said that if he had to choose between government without newspapers and newspapers without government, he would cheerfully choose to live in a land with newspapers (even not very good ones) and no government.

Obama’s campaign is to destroy his perceived enemies in the press, television & business. Rush Limbaugh is the face of the opposition, the ultimate target of the scheme is to marginalize & destroy the GOP, then everyone else unwilling to get in lockstep. WARN

Comment from hellotommy
Time February 28, 2010 at 7:45 am

White House boasts: We ‘control’ news media
Communications chief offers shocking confession to foreign government

By Aaron Klein
© 2009 WorldNetDaily

White House Comm Director Anita Dunn disclosed at a videotaped conference.

“Very rarely did we communicate through the press anything that we didn’t absolutely control,” said Dunn.
Dunn was speaking at a Jan. 12, 2009, event focusing on Obama’s media tactics and hosted by the Global Foundation for Democracy & Development

TAKEOVER

Comment from PatchesRips
Time February 28, 2010 at 8:43 am

“WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING TO COME FROM?”

According to NationMaster, the US spends $6096 per patient. Australia, $3,123.30, Canada, $3037.60, the UK, $ 2,899.70… and every one of those countries has a higher life expectancy. In other words, the y is already there, in spades. The problem is how it’s being distributed, who’s getting it, and the colossal overhead involved in maintaining a for-profit system…

Comment from PatchesRips
Time February 28, 2010 at 8:45 am

“Death Panel will stop the spending on elderly by rationing care”

You already have that, Tommy. HMOs do it every day, just to guard their profits. And they don’t just do it to the elderly, either.

In a single payer system, they can’t cut your benefits or deny you a listed service.

Comment from RealCosmicSurfer
Time February 28, 2010 at 9:07 am

One of the biggest issues ignored -those saying “no Obamacare”, fearing single-payer haven’t experienced the horror of the industry fed & led murder by disease created by our system. They live in a fantasy fed w/ billions in propaganda by highly paid shills making millions off the backs of the US worker-They don’t know what they don’t know. The rest? Over 22 mill. people in this country work in the ins. industry from auto to health. Add pharma & healthcare corps, they make up a HUGE bloc

Comment from thisoldhate
Time February 28, 2010 at 9:34 am

The cost of health care reform is a moot point. DROP IT. We cannot and MUST NOT continue the current “system” as its hands are so bloody from killing Americans they’d make the Taliban say “man that’s messed up”.

People need to learn to find the real boogie man.

Comment from rwcbanzai
Time February 28, 2010 at 9:41 am

Single Payer or die Broke!
Public Option= >$profits for corporate cannibals=>profit from Pain!
Enforce the Hippocratic oath, make all the profiteers go non profit!

Comment from thisoldhate
Time February 28, 2010 at 10:07 am

have you watched this video at all? 31 trillion in the next handful of years if we do nothing, single payer will cost nowhere near this much, as things are going now 100% of our GDP is goig to have to go toward health care… HOW CAN WE PAY FOR THE STATUS QUO!

Comment from econdemocracy
Time February 28, 2010 at 10:58 am

“It all seems great until you have to answer the question…..WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING TO COME FROM??????? ”

Well the same group, the Congressional Budget Office,(CB)which is quoted by those who oppose refrom(oppose patients rights and regulation of the Corporate Death Panels)..the same CBO which doubts the Obama-Congress plan will save money, also said previously that Single Payer would save billions. Repeat: not cost but SAVE billions. Government Accountability Office said the same

Comment from econdemocracy
Time February 28, 2010 at 11:26 am

Death Panels exist today a sick 17-year-old girl needs a liver transplant. Doctors find an available organ, & they’re ready to operate, but the bureaucracy – the “death
panel” -steps in &says it won’t pay for the surgery

Despite protests from girl’s family &her doctors, the heartless hacks hold their ground for a critical 10 days. Eventually, under massive public pressure, they relent, but the girl dies before the operation can proceed

Who did it?Not govt, but private corporate health insurer

Comment from econdemocracy
Time February 28, 2010 at 12:07 pm

“Real Americans don’t want to live as serfs in a kingdom or peasants under Czars.”

Aha!Apparently you believe that both UK&Canada, &most of W Europe, all live “like serfs under Czars” Apparently you believe so do the people in Japan. &Australia. &New Zealand. &Taiwan. They all have Single Payer (Medicare for All, non-profit universal public health insurance).Apparently the first country that pops into your head as “Socialist” is England!?Also wrong: you confuse single payer w/ “public option”

Comment from hellotommy
Time February 28, 2010 at 12:45 pm

Another thing their doing is called incremental change. When they realize they cannot get the massive plan into place now, they scale it back and wait until they think you are not watching. They are very willing to make the incremental moves until all the sheep are fooled. Then they have full control…

Comment from hellotommy
Time February 28, 2010 at 12:52 pm

Democrats don’t seem to understand. Its not that they CAN’T, its that they DON’T WANT to. They don’t want to come to grips with the fact that more people are waking up and standing up — much like people did when this country was formed. Real Americans don’t want to live as serfs in a kingdom or peasants under Czars. These participants are YOUR grandparents, parents and co-workers. They’re tired of being forced into socialism. We’ve fought too many years to allow this to happen from inside.

Comment from hellotommy
Time February 28, 2010 at 1:45 pm

President Barack Obama said his grandmothers hip-replacement surgery during the final weeks of her life made him wonder whether expensive procedures for the terminally ill reflect a sustainable model for health care. Obama said you just get into some very difficult moral issues when considering whether to give my grandmother, or everybody elses aging grandparents or parents, a hip replacement when theyre terminally ill.

Death Panel will stop the spending on elderly by rationing care

Comment from hellotommy
Time February 28, 2010 at 1:55 pm

When they realize they cannot get the massive plan into place now, they will scale it back and wait until they think you are not watching. They are very willing to make the incremental moves until all the sheep are fooled. Then they have full control… Why does a mandatory “board” member have to be Representatives of labor unions like SEIU (Dem thugs)? To help delay critical lifesaving medical treatments causing premature deaths to non union citizens?

Comment from MultiMatt9
Time February 28, 2010 at 1:57 pm

Because you do not understand it, does not mean we should wait for you to catch up before something is done about this.
Do not let these insurance companies and fox news hacks scare you out of a single payer system. I live in Canada. I would not move to America for all the money in the world because of their poor Healthcare system.
FACT Canadians and Europeans live longer and healthier lives.
Do not listen to the lies about wait times and poor care. It’s not true. They are trying to scare you

Comment from mgathena
Time February 28, 2010 at 2:50 pm

I totally agree! Hooano is full of fearful lies.

Comment from hellotommy
Time February 28, 2010 at 2:56 pm

To dems and Obama: Fix Medicare and Medicaid (what you are responsible for today) and then maybe we can trust you with the entire system. It is arrogance beyond belief that you believe you can change something so important, so complex, and so huge all at once. Take this in steps, steps that we can understand.
“A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money.”

Comment from headstorms
Time February 28, 2010 at 3:03 pm

The government interference that has broken the system is Reaganomics/deregulation and laws pushing privatization. Medicare Part D laws prevent Medicare from negotiating drug prices (so we pay more than any country). Medicare Advantage laws pay a higher per-capita cost to private insurers for people that are tricked into opting out of Medicare and into an HMO-like plan, where care can and is being denied to the elderly. I’d rather pay 1/2 for guaranteed quality care than sustain bad insurers.

Comment from sambking
Time February 28, 2010 at 3:20 pm

What, is “the system” going to hold a gun to doctors heads and force them to work for peanuts? Where is the money going to come from to pay for everyone???? The reason the system is so “broken” at the moment is because of too much govt interference. So you think the answer is MORE govt???????

It all seems great until you have to answer the question…..WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING TO COME FROM???????

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Comment from AliceStokesPaul
Time February 28, 2010 at 4:07 pm

But, Chriscorr, if that plan is accepted and it doesn’t work and I dont’ think it will, then it’s failure will be used as a way to stop single payer from ever getting accepted in the U.S. What a shame.